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 on: Today at 03:04:42 AM 
Started by asif - Last post by heptarchy
hi asif, myself and am sure many others on here would like to know, so where do we begin ?
derek

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 on: January 06, 2009, 02:33:32 PM 
Started by asif - Last post by asif
This is not the first stuttering forum I have subscribed to.
I was banned from the last one.
Why?
Because I do not stutter any more.
It is not quite that simple, of course, but when you get right down to it, that was exactly why.

Having overcome nearly 50 years of severe stuttering, and becoming fluent, I felt compassion for those others who still struggled. I decided to try to do my bit for them.
What I did not realize is that stutterers, by their very nature, are not as other people.

What I found was that whenever I wrote what I considered to be immensely meaningful accounts, they were instantly trashed, often over my use of one or two quite harmless words.
The words, and how I arranged them, were acting like emotional triggers to my readers.

I discovered that people were not actually reading what I had written, but were reading-in something that was not there, and that was never intended.
I was accused of being everything under the sun: none of it good.
I supposedly wanted to look like a guru, or needed to attract disciples. I suddenly became a bigot, a nazi, a Fundamentalist Christian, etc. I was even accused - over and over - of being somebody else: a previous forum member who had been driven off in exactly the same way.
Interestingly, he had also become fluent after many years of stuttering.

I tried for quite a while to calmly point out that what they were reading was not what I had written.
But it was no good. Emotion blinded reason, again and again.
Finally I gave in and started responding angrily in self-defense.

So what is my message here?
That: help - and possibly the very help you may need - can come in unlikely packages and in unlikely ways. The only way you will ever be able to receive it is to avoid invalidating a message simply because it may not be what you "think" it should be, or do not "agree" with. Or that the writer of the words is not the right kind of person.
Read what is there. Consider it. Leave it be. It may not be right for you, but that does not mean it is not right for anybody else. And - after consideration - it might even BE right for you.

Becoming fluent does not entail your continuing to be the exact same you, only able to talk.
You must change in ways you may not yet be even able to imagine.
As left-wingers are so fond of saying: "we want change"! "Change is good!"
Only these changes really are good ones.

There is no down side to becoming fluent, other than the piled-up emotional, reactionary garbage of many disfluent years needing to be disposed of, and finally laid to rest. And that - too - can be almost as difficult as gaining fluency.

So: I - and I am sure many others - can deliver experiences and ways to become fluent.
The question is:
Do You Really Want To know?




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 on: January 06, 2009, 04:25:23 AM 
Started by asif - Last post by johnny ashton
I really liked your blog ,pmsl
Im recovering great these days ,as we both say its about learning to love who you are ,i could never love myself having a severe stutter ,id walk in a room or go to the shop and id just freeze ?me thinks i was thinking about my stutter 24/7 .
I really try my best to ignore it ,i reckon its some sort of OCD ?
I remember buying a mobile phone ,god did i hate it when trying to speak on it ,lol
I could not read to my kids or do home work through being a severe stutterer my kids had to have speech therapy in there early years and it frightened me in case they started with there speech problems again ?
It was a mad circle i was living in .
Thanks for joining the forum and welcome
All the best
Johnny ashton

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 on: January 05, 2009, 01:18:06 PM 
Started by asif - Last post by asif
Please take a look at my new blog for people who stutter.
"An end To Stuttering".

You may find something you can use:

http://crowfeather-anendtostuttering.blogspot.com

Enjoy Smiley

...ahhh... sorry: I posted this in the wrong section. I am new here.

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 on: January 05, 2009, 01:14:22 PM 
Started by heptarchy - Last post by asif
So how severe was your stutter
What help did you get to control your stutter
I felt worthless loving with a severe stutter ?how did you feel ?


My stutter was as bad as any I have ever heard. I lived with it for 45 years. And felt much like you did.
I barely show any signs of stuttering now, even to myself. Others don't know I stutter at all.
You say you felt worthless. I know that one.
Deciding not to feel worthless was probably the biggest factor in recovering.
Easier said than done though.
Meditation is a very good start. But again: easier said than done.
It is all in who you are, followed closely by how you see yourself.


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 on: January 05, 2009, 09:02:26 AM 
Started by heptarchy - Last post by johnny ashton
I dont think there is any harm wirh recovering from a severe stutter .
Ill tell you what it drove me mad for 38 years .
So how severe was your stutter
Johnny
What help did you get to control your stutter
I felt worthless loving with a severe stutter ?how did you feel ?

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 on: January 02, 2009, 06:59:26 PM 
Started by heptarchy - Last post by asif

It could help some people laying there cards on the table and tell people about your fears or life .

The nutter with a stutter


Welcome back, and welcome to me as someone new here.
Are you asking for something? What can you think of that might be of use?
I was once quite a nutter with a stutter too Smiley


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 on: January 02, 2009, 07:21:04 AM 
Started by heptarchy - Last post by johnny ashton
The prodicle child returns ,pmsl .
Ive had a very quiet xmas and have started to paint and draw ,im going to back when i was in school and stuffed in a corner because the teachers didnt understand me .pmsl
My speech is doing great so is my mental problems .
It could help some people laying there cards on the table and tell people about your fears or life .
Ive done it at 38 /39 and its help reduce tension in my throat ,i also very rarely have PANIC atttacks anymore .
I hope you have all had a good xmas and i wish you the best for 2009 ?mines going to be a roller coaster
But thats me life is never dull for me .
I did spend 2008 on a mission to have holidays and relax ,which id never really done before .
Eye contact has also improved aswell
Take care
The nutter with a stutter

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 on: December 31, 2008, 01:55:26 PM 
Started by heptarchy - Last post by asif
Hi Derek,
Hope you are having great holidays! I am missing Johnny Ashton very much. Hope Jonny can see this message and would get back to us in the New Year - 2009.

Happy New Year to everyone...

Best
Sara

A Happy and (slightly) more fluent new year to everyone.
Have a smile from me Smiley

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 on: December 31, 2008, 01:45:35 PM 
Started by Johnny ashton - Last post by asif

Ill admit i took an anti depressant called Citalopram ,and the improvement i made over a few weeks where amazing

Citalopram gave me good results as an anti depressant.
But I don't see that as helping speech.
Whatever works, though. All stutters are different, and all stutterers are different.
They do - however - have quite a few things in common, but not wishing to upset anyone, I will not go into what those things are.

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